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hybrid222
04-20-2008, 04:59 PM
Hi,
I'd like some clarification on weighing canned (tinned) tuna. Obviously fish, chicken, etc. are weighed BEFORE cooking, but since we are talking about canned tuna, it has already been cooked.
For example, if my fish allowance is 115 g, and other varieties of fish are normally weighed RAW, do I still eat 115 g canned tuna for my allowance?
TIA!
lfulwood
04-20-2008, 10:56 PM
Yes, canned tuna (or from a pouch) is drained and then weighed. The same for canned chicken.
I mix mine with tomato, onion, cucumber, mayo, salt, pepper, and apple (all according to allowance of course) then use my crackers to eat it. Yum-O!
cyberella
04-21-2008, 10:37 AM
yeah, thaz odd but how it worx-
u drain the tuna, weigh it and may add the water after that again..
kindly note- i 4got (as thaz what my consul always writes!) :party1:
Shasha
04-21-2008, 07:48 PM
{hi} there Everyone
Yes, lfulwood is correct, you simply drain off the excess water in canned tuna and then weight it.
Your new Customer Guide says: TUNA In brine/water—NOT in oil
There is no need for you to make any calculations or conversions where Dr Cohen allows canned proteins or veggies. You would use the same weights for canned or fresh.
To confirm, you are allowed to have canned crab meat. But :cop: Please note: NO CANNED CHICKEN is allowed on the program. Chicken must be weighted raw.
In the veggie section you are allowed the following canned – note the comment in your New Customer Guide:
ASPARAGUS (fresh or canned in water)
MUSHROOMS (fresh or canned in water)
SQUASH is weighed COOKED.
Happy Slimming {cheerleader}
hybrid222
04-22-2008, 11:51 PM
I'm a very picky tuna person (as a kid I would only eat Bumble Bee white meat canned tuna). After trying two brands of canned tuna from the health food store (both of which were horrible), I was very happy to find this "healthy" brand of tuna:
Wild Planet Wild Albacore Tuna, Minimal Mercury, No Salt Added, 6-Ounce Cans (Pack of 6)
I bought a 6-pack of this on amazon dot com. I am going to be eating a lot of it, and I'm so happy to have found it because I love it! It's white meat, very delicate tuna taste, great texture - solid but flakes easily.
NOTE: Although the can says that it contains no oil or liquid, the individual cans do vary. Yesterday I had one with NO extra liquid. Today I opened another one that had quite a bit of liquid. so maybe it is packed without liquid, but some seeps out of the fish.
Anyway, it is yummy! Another benefit (if you are in the US and buy it from amazon): free shipping!
bitten
04-23-2008, 08:21 AM
thanks so much, i will check it out.
i am tres picky about my tuna as well....
i remember being a bumble bee babe, too. no chicken of the sea for me!!! LOL-
isn't it great to find a new healthy, yummy product?
thanks-
bitten
hybrid222
04-23-2008, 09:15 AM
Bumble bee babe! That's cute!
Regarding mercury in fish, there are claims that counter the mercury scare. Basically, the premise is that fish are rich in selenium. Selenium and mercury have a "thing" for each other, so when they are found together, they bind to one another. (True love???) :love5:
So even if the fish do contain very small amounts of mercury, once the selenium and the mercury bind together, the mercury cannot bind to any body parts of the humans who eat the fish, and therefore cannot be assimilated.
The "healthy" brands of tuna use younger tuna anyway, which are less exposed to mercury because of their age, and the tuna is cooked only once (more traditional methods of canning tuna entail cooking it twice).
Shasha
04-23-2008, 10:30 AM
{hi} there Hybrid 222
You have opened 2 threads for TUNA, one about the weight (opened on 20 April) and another about your recommendation about which TUNA is good to get where (opened on 22 April).
For the sake of keeping things orderly and together and easy to find and read, I have combined both of these threads into ONE THREAD called it TUNA FISH INFO.
Hope you don’t mind, but I'm acting on instructions from the big :cop: and we believe it will make things a lot easier to follow, especially for the Newbies on the web :bighug:
Just a quick clarification - SQUASH IS WEIGHED COOKED? I've been weighing raw all along. So I could be having more the way I read this right? Cooke the Yellow Crook Neck Squash and THEN weight????? PLease confirm as I am way excited!!!!
Bronwyn
04-25-2008, 05:03 PM
Great Tuna info! Thanks for sharing! I'm also very picky about my Tuna. I ordered the Kame rice crackers off Amazon and am ready to order some more so I'll add Tuna to my shopping list.
Imb - you are to weigh squash cooked (like the spaghetti squash), but zucchini and the yellow crook-necked squash you weigh raw.
Shasha
05-06-2008, 07:26 AM
{hi} there Imb & Bronwyn
:cop: Just want to squash a little squash mistake:
ALL SQUASH (Spaghetti Squash, Yellow Crookneck Squash and Hubbard squash) is to be weighed COOKED so you cook the squash in it's shell, then scoop out content and weigh off your allowance.
Yes Bronwyn, Zucchini is weighed raw like your other veggies.
GettinSkinny
05-06-2008, 08:57 AM
Now I am confused. :) Yellow crooknecked squash doesn't really have a "shell" so why would we cook it first then weigh for our portion??? Can you please clarify that for us Shasha? Thanks!!
Bronwyn
05-06-2008, 10:51 AM
...and another person (can't remember who... it's been a while) posted that her consultant told her the yellow crook-necked squash is just like zucchini and can be weighed raw. Makes more sense to me. I eat the whole thing and don't scoop it out like I do the spaghetti squash.
Shasha
05-07-2008, 03:36 PM
{hi} there GettinSkinny & Bronwyn
{grouphug1}
Bronwyn, in your previous post you wrote:
Imb - you are to weigh squash cooked (like the spaghetti squash), but zucchini and the yellow crook-necked squash you weigh raw.
According to page 14 of the New Customer Guide you need to weigh all squash cooked - it says the following:
SQUASH
Yellow / Crookneck Squash (with long curved neck)
Yellow Spaghetti Squash (watermelon shaped)
Hubbard Squash
(cook in shell, then scoop out content and weigh)...
This means all squash is to be weighed cooked, regardless on if there are no pips or peel ie: some Diet Buddies can buy pre-cleaned Hubbard Squash, you simply weigh what you eat once the squash is cooked. The point I was trying to make (sorry if it was not clear) is not with the peel or the pips, but it is important to weigh your squash cooked weight instead of weighing it raw.
Zucchini is not listed next to squash, so it is weighed raw like all the other veggies... with the exception of asparagus and mushrooms which may be either canned weight or raw weight. Hope that helps clear it up...
Happy slimming :bighug:
lfulwood
05-07-2008, 05:03 PM
Butternut squash is not allowed at this stage. Summer squash will be weighed raw.
This is what my consultant told me about the yellow summer squash. I don't know if there is any difference between summer and crook necked squash. I always thought they were the same.
Hippychick
05-07-2008, 06:13 PM
Hi,
Since you are talking about pre-cooked items. I just cooked some chicken breast and being new to the program I forgot to weigh out my portions first. Oops. Any thoughts on weighing chicken, meat etc. after it has been cooked? Maybe half the grams? I thought I was doing so good by buying a pocket size scale to take along for when we do go out to eat thinking grilled fish or chicken would be great to eat out. All I'd have to do is weight it? I forgot about the pre-cooked thing. :( Any suggestions?:praying:
Thanks Hippychick
Oh, thanks to Mrs. Peel I've got my ticker now :weights2:
MrsPeel
05-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Hippychick, you will soon get to the stage where you can estimate the right size piece of chicken or fish in a restaurant, even if you can't weigh it raw. However, I have had great luck with asking restaurants to either weigh my portion before cooking or to tell me the weight of the portions they regularly serve. The truth is, you really need to avoid eating out as much as possible on the 1PD, for best results.
Bronwyn
05-07-2008, 09:16 PM
I checked with the counselors about the yellow hook neck squash, a.k.a. summer squash being weighed before or after cooking. I was told to weigh it raw. This makes total sense since it is just like zucchini.
This is where I had seen that a consultant said we could way the yellow squash raw. I actually eat it raw just like I do zucchini. I know what the guide book says, but this still doesn't make sense to me as I eat the yellow crook-necked squash just like zucchini and I never, even when I do cook it, scrape it out of its shell like I would spaghetti squash. I'm just curious and want to clear it up as I don't want to pass along bad information, but it is hard when you get conflicting feedback from a consultant.
Shasha
05-08-2008, 11:22 AM
{hi} there Bronwyn
:thinking: I ALSO DO NOT LIKE CONFLICTING information at all, we are thinking the same thoughts here and I feel that we are sitting in the same boat.
As far as I have always known, all squash is to be weighed cooked, so when I read your first post to Imb saying: "you are to weigh squash cooked (like the spaghetti squash), but zucchini and the yellow crook-necked squash you weigh raw" I thought to myself, this was a mistake, but before saying anything on the Forum and to be 100% sure, :nerd: I consulted Secretary with your quote asking if this information was right or wrong and Secretary then confirmed the following:
[QUOTE=Secretary]Shasha
*** cook in shell, then scoop out content and weigh ***
the above is true to all squash types
So, other than that I cannot comment, :( expect that I will ask Secretary to please come and read all these posts and see how we are feeling because I agree with you, there should be no room left for conflicting information.
If you eat squash raw, then I believe you would need to weigh it raw...
MrsPeel
05-08-2008, 11:53 AM
This will be a very interesting discussion to have resolved! I, too, have weighed my yellow squash (also called "summer squash" here in the USA) raw, as well as my zucchini. Both are soft-skinned, slender squashes, as opposed to the harder-shelled large squashes, like spaghetti and Hubbard. I don't know how you would cook a yellow squash and then scrape it out to weigh it, as it gets quite soft with any heat at all and can get downright mushy.
Anxious to hear!
SPDeRosa
05-08-2008, 04:50 PM
I'm soooooo confused! :wacky::wacky:
Page 11 of my "Customer Guide" says: "Always weigh food raw before you cook it."
So my understanding is that ALL food, unless otherwise noted, is to be weighed before it's cooked.
Page 14 of my Customer Guide refers to Hubbard Squash and says:
"Hubbard Squash (cook in shell, then scoop out content and weigh)"
So my understanding is that Hubbard Squash is the exception to the rule of weighing all food while raw. The fact that the weighing instructions come in parentheses after Hubbard Squash but not after the other types made me think that this applied only to Hubbard Squash.
After reviewing my Customer Guide it seems that this is the only food that mentions weighing after cooking.
I agree with Mrs. Peel and others in that I often dice up a bit of each and include raw in a salad (with the skin on them), and if I cook them I also cook with the skins on and eat the skins. I wouldn't even think to scoop out the middle because once cooked the skins are so soft and there's really not much meat to scoop out. The yellow squash, like zucchini, doesn't really have a "shell."
One more thought (edited in). If ALL squash is to be weighed after cooking, can we ask that the New Customer Guide be changed so it's more clear? Perhaps the first note to the right of "Squash" should read:
SQUASH Please note: All forms of squash must be weighed after cooking. Squash is not
weighed raw. Cook in shell, then scoop out contents and weigh.
Yellow / Crookneck Squash (with long curved neck)
Yellow Spaghetti Squash (watermelon shaped)
Hubbard Squash
I'd really like to see that yellow squash is allowed to be weighed raw. Otherwise the reality is that I'm not going to eat it because it's really not practical to scoop it and weigh it.
Shasha
05-09-2008, 02:35 PM
{hi} there Shawn
I've copied your post to Secretary and hopefully we will get some feedback soon. :confused: In the meantime, I hear you are saying and it would seem that the yellow squash should be weighed raw instead of cooked because like you said: The yellow squash, like zucchini, doesn't really have a "shell."
I've asked the same thing yesterday about the New Customer Guide's for the future so that it can be clear to everyone...
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