KMac's journey into Re-feed

[KMac]

Hello All,
I started re-feed today:party1:
I weighed in this AM @ 139.8! Can't believe I'm, me- in the 130's, even if its just by 8 ounces I"M THERE!!! lol
My re-feed days are 4-9,12,14,15,17,18,21,22,24,26,28,30
So I'm on dc1 until day 4, which is nice no sudden changes- I'm not great with changes.
There was a time when I thought everyone & there mother was going to re-feed and I wasn't close. I had to realize it wasn't my time, I had to open myself up and let this diet teach me how to handle food- not how I thought I should handle food.
Re-feed is the ending to all the hard work, the foundation that we built in dc1.
I send you all light, love and hope you follow your goal
:hug:

[Key]

Yay, KMac! Aren't you excited?!? I know how you're feeling with dipping below your goal weight... and since you were struggling a bit at the end to get rid of your holiday nibbles this must feel especially delicious. Congratulations, friend.

[Aqua Eyes]

Hi KMac... Congrats for getting her..finally!! I think you should check this with your consultants though... you start with Day 4 as your first day of refeed, not do the Basic plan for the first 3 days then start refeed. Day 4 is actually Day 1 of your refeed. Then Day 5 is your second and Day 6 is your third, and so on. ;) It tells you in the instructions to cross off the days that they don't have you do and start with the first day they tell you to start with, which is Day 4.

[KMac]

Hi Joann- Thanks for the info.
Day 4 will be my 1st day of changing up my diet, days 1-3 stay the same right?
I crossed off day 1-3 and just follow dc1 until day 4. Looking forward to day 4, piece of bread and maybe some blueberries or pineapple~ yum.
Today was the 1st day I posted my weight to the re-feed calender.

[Aqua Eyes]

Hi KMac,

Day 4 should be your First Day of refeed. From the guide:

Example: If your list of days is: 3 to 8 and then 10 12 14 … you need to take the Re-feeding as prescribed in this guide starting from Day 3 to 8, followed by Day 10, followed by day 12 and then 14, etc.

Day 3 in this example is the Day you start your refeed with. You don't do your program as usual Day 1 and 2...NO.. you jump right in at Day 3.

So... Jump right in at Day 4 and start adding the quantity amounts or additions as prescribed. So... add that additonal fruit and slice of bread!

[KMac]

Oh man, I'm screwing this up already!! I thought the day's I wasn't on re-feed, I went back to dc1. I have to re-read & re-read the program again.
Thanks Joann your the best!

[Aqua Eyes]

LOL! Don't worry about KMac... you haven't really screwed up yet. I just want you to get off to a good start. So... after your day 9 you go to Day 12, then Day 14 then day 15 then day 17... and forget any days in between. You don't do the full 30 or 31 days on this plan. You just do the days they tell you to do, which makes the process even shorter than you were expecting...right? ;)

[KMac]

Thank you for putting me on the right path! You saved my re-feed journey. That makes sense- so re-feed is 20 days as opposed to 30? Okay, I'm running to the store to get some bread & fruit for tomorrow :)

[Dayanira]

Yahooooo!! You are here!!! Congratulations girl! We are so proud of you!

Jo Ann is right. Don't worry about the misunderstanding, just start on Day 4 as your 1st day of Refeed.

Keep posting for any query, we're here to help you.

Dayanira

[KMac]

Thank you, I'm really going to need it- my personal page expired :(
Thank goodness Joanne straighten me out about he days.
I do have a question about fruit- I did just have some delicious pineapple :)
do I still get to eat my 3 other fruits? I love the fruit
Thank you for your help :)

[Dayanira]

Yes! All this new fruit is in addition to the ones you've been eating. Isn't this wonderful? But be careful, in the maintenance guidelines says that you should limit your fruit to 1 a day. In my case, when I finished Refeed it was very hard to give up the fruit, it's only now after 3 months in maintenance that I can control my fruit cravings.

Dayanira

[Aqua Eyes]

Hi Dayinara,

Good to see you again too! I don't think it is necessary to limit the fruit to 1 a day while on maintenance unless you are adding more carbs to your program. I think one has to find a balance that works for them in regards to carbs and fruit. I still eat the Cohen fruit and have at least 2, if not 3 a day, just as before but I don't eat that many complex carbs or potatoes, etc.

I do need to get out the guide and read the maintenance again. I don't agree with everything it says though.

[KMac]

Thank you girls,
I'm very lucky to have you in my corner :)

[KMac]

Hello All,
So far, so good:innocent4:
Re-feed is a nice change, and I'm enjoying, that I am eating more FOOD~yeahhhh.
Every morning there is a slight worry about weighing myself, but so far, its been good.
Monday when I thought I was on re-feed but really wasn't I was 139.8
Tuesday really on re-feed 140.4- starting date.
Wed- 139.8
Thurs 139.2
My new fruit is pineapple, which is great.
I love having the extra veggie's & protein for lunch, it helps me get through work- which is a good thing. I thought I would be over the moon about the bread, yesterday I passed on the bread and had my crackers instead, plus 2 extra~ ( hear that Val, extra crackers!!). I love all the fruit, I'm enjoying while I can:sadeyes:

[val2zap]

Hey KMac

Congrats on finally being in re-feed mode. I'm so excited for this journey that you will going on.

Got your point about the crackers! :) but, right now I'm still in overdose mode so I need to get back to the regiment before I become elated over more crackers.

Keep up the good work. Can't wait to read about your daily successes.

[Aqua Eyes]

Hi KMac,

Please read this from the consultants that I found on my Refeed thread:

On the Re-feeding Program you should eat the bread, after Re-feeding you may leave bread entirely and then you will have trained your body to cope with starch so you can then eat oatmeal or brown rice in moderation.

I was like you... I didn't want to eat the bread. I really don't enjoy it. Even now I don't have bread in my house. It is a danger for me to have it. BUT... I ate the bread because of what they told me about it.

There are some very helpful things that I posted from the consultants on my refeed thread if you take a moment and scan through it. ;)

[KMac]

Hi All,
Hope all is well with everyone. Re-feed just keeps amazing me. Food & more food and today I weighed in at 138.6- it really is amazing. I've realized everything we have done in dc1 is done for a reason. I feel like my metabolism is really burning what I put into it- my advice to anyone in dc1- JUST DO IT- it works. Yesterday I ate an extra 60grams of protein, 80 grams of veggies, 2 new fruits ( pineapple), along w/ my 3 fruits- and crackers.. down a pound. I am so thankful I gave myself to this diet and followed the directions - even when maybe it didn't make sense. DC1 is the foundation for re-feed, build a solid foundation.

Joann, it say's in my program that if the bread makes you feel bloated, or heartbun, water retention etc.. you may continue with your original prescribed quantity of crackers instead of having bread during re-feed. You can aslo mix & eat bread on some of the re-feeding day's. I hope I'm not messing anything up- again-lol
I like the crackers better because I can place them throughout the day- bread is at one meal and its done. It is nice to have toast w/ the egg but then it only leaves me 2 crackers for the day :(
Have a great day everyone :)

[Aqua Eyes]

I did go back and re-read that section about bread and it does say that, so it is true, but I asked my consultant about not eating the bread and that was the answer they gave to me about it. So.. I ate the bread, which didn't cause bloating or water retention in me. Now, however, I do not eat bread.

It appears to me, KMac, that you are doing fantastic on refeed and if you are down a couple pounds below your goal, all the better! ;)

[Dayanira]

I was the same, I didn't want to go back to bread, but since I took Refeed as a testing period I wanted to see how my body was reacting to it, plus I thought to myself: life around me is full of bread, there will be temptations all the way no matter how I tried to avoid it. So I ate bread as indicated in Refeed, but now I only eat it unless I really, really want to. At home I'm eating crackers only, it's only when I'm out and I can't control the situation that I eat it. As today, I haven't had a toast of bread for almost a year!

[KMac]

Hello All,
Weighed in 139.0 this AM, I have to drink more water, I had a lot of running around & kids sports yesterday and then company over for the Jet game- I stay'd true to my re-feed- yeahh, but I don't think I got enough water inn.
Today I get my 1st bad fruit, (I'm going for a banana- boy have I missed them) and 3 slices of bread. Maybe a banana on a slice of warm WW bread?- think I'm allowed to put blueberries on it?
I'm debating if I should even go back to milk, or skim milk Dr C' recommends. I use to drink a lot of coffee w/ milk, but now drinking it black I only drink about 1 - 2 cups. The only thing with black coffee is, it has to be really good coffee. It took me 25 weeks to find a coffee I could drink black, I was green tea'd out! Another thing I have to watch is the gum, to much gum - my TMJ is on the brink of starting up again :(
Hope all is well with everyone else- Happy Monday :)

[Key]

Hi KMac,

I found the same thing to be true with water... when I don't drink enough of it the scale lets me know. I'm staying off milk - the only time I ever used it before 1PD was on cereal and now since I won't be eating much cereal there is no need for milk. I get the phlegm thing from milk, too... don't miss that at all!

Enjoy your banana... aren't blueberries wonderful? I tried fresh pineapple - it was delicious but just too sweet for me.

[KMac]

Hello,
Still trying to get my water in, but I'm finding this extra food doesn't sit well all the time. I have to find my comfort zone with the amounts- I don't like the feeling of being so full- it makes me want to have something sweet.
I weighed in today 139.8
I did really enjoy two slices of whole wheat bread, sliced banana w/ blueberries on it- wow that was so good. (Felt like it laid in my stomach for awhile but good- if I have it again I will have to take a long walk to burn it up)

I dont' eat any red meat, or pork so I'm a little worried that I have no new meat to bring into re-feed. I have to go to the fish market & get some nice salmon to take a break from all this chicken I'm eating.

I heard someting this morning that made me think and has inspired me to be the best me I can be:
"Its is the believers respnsibility to walk in peace"
I love the peace & clarity this diet brings into my life, to have control over food, emotions etc. It is my responsibility to create that for myself everyday, because it makes me a better/ happy person, a better wife, mom,sister,friend etc.
Hope you all have a peaceful day :)

[KMac]

I was reading Joanne & Daynira's re-feeding post and they both have a lot of good information.
I did not know that when you add more veggies to a meal you h ave to add more protein. Yesterday I added an extra 55 grams of veggies for brkfest- thats a no-no without the protein.
I weighed in at 141.2, just under the 2lb's- otherwise I would have to go back 2 days on re-feed.
I know what I did wrong, water, and crackers- and trying to find a happy/comfortable place with this extra food.
The banana,& ww bread is too good- I need to limit that, it just lays in my stomach- I'm going back to pineapple, I feel like it burns up faster.
It might sound crazy but I miss that feeling of being hungry. DC1 3 meals, 3 fruits & crackers.. simple. Can you tell I'm not a fan of change, I like getting my routine down and working with that- Re-feed is challenging..you
have CHOICES- ughh - lol. Give me my small dc1 bubble of food and I'm fine, adding all this food & rules into the mix,, I think too much.

Like I wrote in my post yesterday, " Its the believers responsibility to walk in peace" I want that peace, and stepping outside my comfort zone ( dc1) is part of the peace process.

Did anyone ever ask about exercise on re-feed?
Thanks & have a great day,

[Dayanira]

Hi KMac,
I just re-posted the following on my maintenance tread, just in case you miss it, here it is again:

Dear Daynanira

We would not suggest that you have bread with breakfast even on the refeeding program.
Rather have 2 crackers and have the slice of bread later.
Hot peppers (chilies ) and the other red and yellow peppers contain sugar, so please keep that in mind when you have it after the refeeding and if you find that it makes you hungry, then cut back on the portion.

Regards
the 1PD Team


With the addition of vegetables and protein I did add 10g of vegetables with my egg in the morning, especially when I had the zucchini pancake. I ate with a slice of tomato.

Enjoy your Refeed Kay and Kmac. It's a trial an error period, it's time to test your body and record any changes in your body that you may experience.

Dayanira

[KMac]

Thank you Daynanira, I appreciate all the information :)

[Key]

Thanks from me, too, Dayanira. I had bread with breakfast yesterday and won't do it again.

[KMac]

Today I weighed in at 142.6, its hard watching the scale move up- I'm not use to it ;(
I've been reading old Re-feedng post which are helpful. I have read about other weight gain stories during
re-feed- as long as my weight gain from 139.8(startiing weight on re-feed) to 142.6 wasn't overnight I don't have to go back 2 days in re-feed.
My TMJ is really acting up- the pain in my jaw is bad,I have an appointment on Sat. hopefully the Dr. can get help me out- I hate taken pills and popping
advil & Naproxen is getting in my vitamin popping way! lol
Sorry don't mean to be craky- but I am ;/
Hope you all having a good day :)
Looking forward to spring :)

[KMac]

Good Morning!
Weighed in this Am 143.6- ughhh this is killin me!!! The past few days I have been constipated, ( yes even with adding all that food & fruits). Last night I was contiplating taking a laxitive but didn't thank goodness because I went on my own.
I don't know if it was because all the advil or naproxen, a touch of stomach bug thats going around here,or I was just going to explode if this didn't happen- but I thought for sure the scale would be down- NOT! Sometimes I get up to go the bathroom in the middle of the night and weigh myself-( around 2-3 AM) and I weigh more than I do at 6AM- strange- so we do lose while we sleep, maybe I should go to bed for a day or 2 !!lol

I was wondering about TOM- how does that work with weight gain & re-feed gain?
I'm sorry about my post today- a little personal but- were all human and have body functions - right?

Happy Friday everyone :)

[Key]

I can relate TOTALLY to your problem, KMac... I've also been constipated. Do you think it's the additional bread and heavier fruit options?

[KMac]

Hi Key,
I'm thinking maybe our bodies/ digestive system are in shock- like putting 10lb sausage in a 5lb bag..lol I really thought the scale would go back to 139-140 ( after going the bathroom) but I still put on a pound. Then I realized my TOM is in a few days could it just be bloating?
I know DC say's the flucuation of 1-2lbs is water weight but I really do not enjoy seeing my #'s go up.
I was going to try and take some walks to help my digestive system and just feel better but the tempertaure has really dipped here ( NY) - single digets with the wind chill today- so maybe in a few days.
I'm looking foward to spring-. I signed up to run/walk a 13.1 marathon in Central Park at the end of April-( More a magazine for women over 40)
so I'm looking toward that- I can't imagine running 85 pounds lighter. When I did the triathlon I was 215 ( I had lost about 10 lbs in training)- so this should be interesting.

Good luck with the constipations- I know how you feel ;/

[KMac]

Good morning,
I weighed in at 142.6, down 1 lb from yesterday & even had the 3 slices of bread,
had my dinner after 9pm & got my TOM this AM - I don't understand but I will take the loss of a pound ;)
I'm running off to the dr. for my TMJ - ( jaw), hope he can help.
Have a great day :)

[KMac]

Hello again,
Back from Dr. he gave me a mouth piece to wear while I sleep and for around the house- it feels weird but it will help with my teeth clenching while I sleep - hopefully. My disc's have worn out on the right side of my jaw, so its bone on bone-so hopefully this device will elevate the pressure on my jaw & I will pray athritis dosent set in. :( An eater with a bad jaw- bummer...LOL

I think I'm slowly figuring out how to make this re-feed work for me. I'm adding cucumbers to my salads- I always avoided them on DC1 because they were heavy ( weight wise) so I'll throw them in a salad and it weighs it down. I also make a big bowl of mashed cauliflower, spaghetti squash, green pepper, mushroom & onion and thats heavy on the scale too. I have that with my egg in the morning and put it on a sandwitch for lunch- ( there are a lot of veggies to consume)
I am having trouble with new proteins, I don't eat red meat or pork so I'm going to have to get some salmon.
I skipped the 50g carbs yesterday, I jsut didn't get to it- I have it today, I'll see what I can have.

:party1:

[KMac]

Good Morning,
Weighed in the Am @ 141.6- down another 1lb :) :)
I had to eat after 9 again last night - my son had baseball & basketball-
I'm just really re leaved to see the scale going in the other direction for a change- hope it continues :)

Today I get 120 new protein- that's not additional is it? I mean, 120g protein I get for meal 2, the 100g protein I get for meal 3- do I substitute the new protein for one of my old? Seems like a lot of protein.
The only new protein I could eat is salmon, I went to the organic market and they were charging 17.99 a pound, so I went to Trader Joe's and got Shrimp & Tilapia for less than what I would have paid for the salmon.
I was just re-reading the food groups maybe I'll try scallops! I totally forgot about scallops :) I like them- scallops it is
I haven't tried the skim milk, I just don't know if that's a door I want to open. Milk in my coffee was a must & I was counting the days last year until I could have it but- I thought I would NEVER believe this- I like the coffee black, as long as its
good coffee. I read somewhere coffee is a great antioxidant, possibly helps fight the onset of Alzheimer & diabetes- but with no milk. The gentleman who was writing about it said he puts a teaspoon of 100% cocoa powder in his coffee- that sounded good.

Well enough rambling..
have a great day

[KMac]

I have a question:
Any part of chicken or turkey, would ground turkey 93% fat free be ok? The 99% fat free ones are a little dry, so do you think the 93% would be ok during re-feed?

Thanks,

[Key]

Hi Kmac - I don't know about ground turkey... but for the new protein I bought a package of boneless skinless chicken thighs and it's been quite convenient to add them. I have to scrape the fat off of them but it has been an easy solution for me. I agree that adding 120 grams of new protein seemed like a lot - I stopped adding as much protein a few days ago - been sticking with adding about 60 - 80 grams a day. I'm on Day 27 today - adding 200 grams of new protein and taking off 80 grams of old... don't know exactly what I'll do today.

I forgot about scallops too - thanks for the reminder, I love them!

[KMac]

Hello,
Yesterday I was not feeling well, nauesa plus my Dad is in the hospital for knee replacement surgery so adding all the new stuff just didn't work out.
I keep to my DC program jsut didn't intorduce new proteins & veggies. Yesterday's weigh in was 140.8, today 140.0.
today I get to add some butter to my toast/bread and 1 cookie- which cookie to have? so many choices..lol and to just have ONE!
There is something about the hospital that just makes you want to eat chocolate and drink coffee. I brought my banana & ww bread- yummy and filing- and an orange and that kept me occupied. My Dad on the other hand, I was buying him apple turnovers, peanut butter & crackers, Back & white cookies.. lol
I am definelty a food pusher.
Hope all is well & have a great day :)

[Dayanira]

Hi Kmac,
I hope your Dad is having a speedy recovery!
In regards of the Turkey, I think that the 93% fat free should be OK, since in the Refeed programme it says that we should increase the amounts of fats little by little to get our bodies used to more fat.

[KMac]

Hi Dayanira,
Thanks for the well wishes for my Dad & the info. You look great in your pictures, you have a beautiful family.

Weighed in today 140.0 and I had a cookie yesterday- allowed. I'm still up at the hospital with my Dad so I actually skipped dinner lastnight, so I'm doing yesterday over again. :)

[Key]

Hi KMac - don't you LOVE cookie day?!? I chose shortbread and had it with coffee - it was such a treat. I'm generally not a cookie person but it was such a thrill to be allowed something so different. Made me feel like a grown up.

I hope your dad heals quickly.

[KMac]

Hello All-
Hi Key, Thanks for the will wishes for my Dad & yes I love the cookie- I really enjoy it with my tea or coffee.
Today I weighed in at 140.0 again so I'm moving on to the next day, I only have 1 more day after today :O!
Somethings you just can't get in, the butter, milk and all that extra protein & veggies but I do what I can. I like having
a turkey sandwitch on ww toast- yummy.

Hope everyone is doing good- remember its all possible, you can do this :)

[KMac]

Hello All,
Today I weighed in at 138.6- yeahh... back to the 130's....:) I think I will do yesterday over again, I skipped dinner- I was up at the hospital w/ my Dad and didn't get lunch in until 4:30 ~ and then I didn't get home till closer to 11~ so I'm taking a do-over- lol. Plus with the big football/ Super Bowl game tomorrow- I really want to avoid wine, chips & salsa& chocolate and being on re-feed with bounderies will help me avoid the party temptations- hey, we have to do what we have to do- right?

I posted some pictures on my profile page, I can't figure out how to get them on the message board and I think I did something wrong because the pictures seem big- so good luck looking..lol
ps- Went to the gap last night and picked up a pair of" Boyfriend jeans" I think thats what they are called- I just liked them because they had that soft denim & worn out look- anyway, I didn't try them on got a size 6- must be a mistake or run big but there to BIG!!! I heading back to try the 4, me 4? Its probably the make of the jean to run big but I dont' care- I'll take it. How many years of my life did I go into the Gap and couldn't find clothes to fit me? I would walk across the parking lot to Lane Bryant- I still have to pinch myself sometimes. If anyone reads this who thinks its not possible to lose a large amount of weight.. if I can do it, you can do it.. 87lbs gone from my body :)

[Key]

I love your excitement. KMac. You so deserve to wear size 4 jeans and to shop anywhere you want. I hope your dad is doing better.

PS - should you be skipping meals?

[KMac]

Hi Key,
Thanks for the well wishes for my Dad, he is doing really well now- yeahh.
Your right, I should not have been skipping meals, I'm off the diet path, somewhere between re-feed & maintenance.
I finished my days on re-feed, not really to my liking- I'm at 143 today. I keep hitting between 139-143, never more than the
2lbs gain in one day. I'm thinking of heading into maintenance with the goal of losing those 5 lbs, maybe give up the carbs for 2 days?
This might sound weird but letting go of re-feed/dc1 is scary. I had these boundries that I was very comfortable in, and now I think I am over thinking
my food choices- not putting as much effort into it like I did before. I feel this has taking some of my peace, not all but some- I think more about food now then on dc1. I try to push the boundries with the cookies, bread etc. Yesterday I was good until I made No Pudge Brownies for the kids, the debate I had in my head and the bellyache after I ate them- ughh. Its funny, every morning I have my egg & veggie patty, so far so good this AM.
I am in control of what goes into my mouth- I can try to justify it all I want but I am only hurting myself. I worked to hard and too long to feel - entitlement for crap! lol I love the feeling of having control over food-I have to learn to set up healthy boundries for myself & I hope my friends here and maintenance will help me with that.

[Key]

Hi KMac -

I understand the struggle - it's so much easier having a diet all laid out and restricted for me. But what I'm starting to understand is that I still need to live with boundaries but I'm the one who has to define them. Now I am in control - but truth be known, I've always been in control - Dr. Cohen just set the parameters but I was in control with following the rules. It's still kind of a gray area for me but the more I write about it and think about it, the more I'm beginning to understand it - we need to make the mental shift from obeying someone else's rules to setting and then obeying our own. I think I'll start working on my own rules - kind of a manifesto. When I figure them out I'll post them.

[KMac]

Hi Key,
Well I'm off to maintenance- the grey area..lol
I love the idea of writing things down, I need that- when I was struggling or wanted to pick on something early into DC I would write in my journal- it helped keep my hands busy and out of food. Maybe writing my own rules- it will help with the grey'ness ( is that a word?) of maintenance.
Your so wise :)